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Win32 on the other hand is a constantly moving target with no standard set down. All of these are either opensource or openstandard. Now, in terms of GUI programming, we have GTK for C and qt for C++. Solaris and UnixWare conforms to the UNIX 98 specification, IRIX, AIX and HP-UX conform to the UNIX 95 specification. POSIX is only ONE part in the large UNIX 98 specification. Granted the GUI API leaves a great deal to be desired (most notably the “Shatter vulnerability” in the messaging system) but the remainder of the functionality is quite enhanced compared to its less elegant POSIX counterparts.
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Talk to ANY professional programmer that if the alternative had a larger marketshare and they could make a decent living off it, they would instantly move.Īs a POSIX and Win32 programmer, I find Win32 to be considerably more powerful and providing a significantly more enhanced functionality and flexibility. It was him and his organisation who created the ball of mess called win32. As for Bill Gates rant, he needs to buy a clue instead of jumping on every bandwagon that zooms past his office.
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Are you really that naive in thinking that they (Microsoft) will move their code base over to managed C++? do you have any idea regarding managed code? what next, you’re going to suggest that drivers can be written in Java and one can write a kernel using VB? We’ve already provided a rich client called Java, but Microsoft wasn’t so interested in helping us with our deployment.” Schwartz: It’s called “Tiger.” J2SE 1.5 will deliver lightning performance on that desktop. “SG: How do you combat the Longhorn vision in a time frame that’s going to make some difference? Sure, win32 is a big ball of mess but what UNIX provides is a heck of alot more eligant. Microsoft *NEEDS* to replace the win32 API because it is fundamentally flawed from the ground up, Linux and Solaris don’t because they’ve been designed with the networked environment in mind.Īs for Java, why on earth would one need to “obfuscate” a perfectly good API. Why would SUN need to do that? Solaris and Linux’s basic API’s aren’t baroque like the win32 API. Any web links explaining how it works?ĭebman (IP: -.) – Posted on 19:19:26Īre they implementing Java desktop so that all the APIs are obfuscated by Java just like how C# will obfuscate Win32 ? How does NeWS work, do developers who have apps written for X11 need to rewrite large chunks of their code for it. The only problem I see here is most of the apps will only work for X and if NeWS was like we know Aqua to be today, I don’t know if developers want to try and follow yet more API’s.

Maybe Sun should plan on introducing NeWS for their linux desktop with a rootless X server. By saying “lightning performance” I am curious as to what they are going to do.Īlso Schwartz comments on managed code wasn’t a good one, because MS is planning to migrate the whole OS to managed code. Or lazy lion.Īnyway although I am not too fond of Java it is good that they are trying to improve its performance. What is it currently called tabby white kitten. We’ve already provided a rich client called Java, but Microsoft wasn’t so interested in helping us with our deployment.Īnd then we’ll call it Cheetah, and Jagwire, and Panthwire.įunny choice of name.

SG: How do you combat the Longhorn vision in a time frame that’s going to make some difference?
